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Jun. 19th, 2009 01:15 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
A little over a month ago,
whalelines linked me to this article, entitled "The Benefits of Distraction and Overstimulation". It is about things that are brought up all the time: how the internet/your cell phone/today's world has changed your brain chemistry. It's a really good article -- Anderson's writing is very engaging -- that feels like a pun but it also doesn't and for the record it isn't -- (this sentence is starting to feel like the grammatical equivalent of cultural ADHD) (oh god I'm making it worse), but the first time I was reading it I had to get up in the middle of it because this article, and everything like it, are talking about me. There are a hundred fifty-year-old psychologists/researchers writing up books, articles, studies, and blog posts about why every so often I will realize I've lost an hour watching videos of four-year-old gymnasts for the last five minutes.
BUT DON'T WORRY I'M NOT GOING TO GET ALL DEEP AND PHILOSOPHICAL ABOUT THIS TONIGHT, this is totally about the internet.
Anyway I was reminded of the article because tonight I was thinking like those people. BECAUSE LJ IS SLOW. You guys have totally noticed too, I've seen it mentioned more than once while flisting, and the uprise in the number of tumblr users in the last couple of weeks seems... like an obvious scapegoat? Which then incites a curmudgeony reaction in me, because that is... the person I am. ("WHY IS MICROBLOGGING ALL THE RAGE? Maybe I don't want to post short things! I LIKE A LOT OF WORDS"). WHICH IS SUPER HYPOCRITICAL, because like... I do have twitter. I hate the stupid character limit (200 IS A MUCH MORE REASONABLE NUMBER) but I have it, and I've probably had it longer than most of you (according to that one website that tells you when you signed up: 2 years. WEIRD.)
The thing is that twitter -- and, from what I understand, tumblr -- is kind of a double-edged sword. You can post your thoughts/that hilarious youtube vid/the .gif your friend linked you to without having to write a lot of words of explanation like you would if you were posting it here. What you end up with is a conglomerate of half-thoughts, some of which, in a pre-microblogging world, would have gotten posted on your LJ, and some of which would have gotten lost in the ether of your memory. We all get more out, but the result is: less posting here. And it's not that this new way of interacting is really a threat to our old way of interacting: I think everyone loves this site for the same reasons I do -- the wordiness, the fic, and those really really lovely long thready conversations you can get into.
BUT ME BEING ME, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. How you flip between/utilize the three (or two, or if you still only use LJ, why you still only use LJ), how they've changed your ~internet experience~, HOW YOU FEEL. Pleaaaase? Also I have a poll for my own nefarious curiosity/statistical purposes:
[Poll #1417966]
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BUT DON'T WORRY I'M NOT GOING TO GET ALL DEEP AND PHILOSOPHICAL ABOUT THIS TONIGHT, this is totally about the internet.
Anyway I was reminded of the article because tonight I was thinking like those people. BECAUSE LJ IS SLOW. You guys have totally noticed too, I've seen it mentioned more than once while flisting, and the uprise in the number of tumblr users in the last couple of weeks seems... like an obvious scapegoat? Which then incites a curmudgeony reaction in me, because that is... the person I am. ("WHY IS MICROBLOGGING ALL THE RAGE? Maybe I don't want to post short things! I LIKE A LOT OF WORDS"). WHICH IS SUPER HYPOCRITICAL, because like... I do have twitter. I hate the stupid character limit (200 IS A MUCH MORE REASONABLE NUMBER) but I have it, and I've probably had it longer than most of you (according to that one website that tells you when you signed up: 2 years. WEIRD.)
The thing is that twitter -- and, from what I understand, tumblr -- is kind of a double-edged sword. You can post your thoughts/that hilarious youtube vid/the .gif your friend linked you to without having to write a lot of words of explanation like you would if you were posting it here. What you end up with is a conglomerate of half-thoughts, some of which, in a pre-microblogging world, would have gotten posted on your LJ, and some of which would have gotten lost in the ether of your memory. We all get more out, but the result is: less posting here. And it's not that this new way of interacting is really a threat to our old way of interacting: I think everyone loves this site for the same reasons I do -- the wordiness, the fic, and those really really lovely long thready conversations you can get into.
BUT ME BEING ME, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. How you flip between/utilize the three (or two, or if you still only use LJ, why you still only use LJ), how they've changed your ~internet experience~, HOW YOU FEEL. Pleaaaase? Also I have a poll for my own nefarious curiosity/statistical purposes:
[Poll #1417966]
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Date: 2009-06-19 07:42 am (UTC)For the record; I abhor Twitter. I heard about it pretty much when it started. I hated it then and I hate it now. Just like I can't stand when people update their Facebook status every 5 minutes.
OMFGS. I'm old... ON THE INTERNET! *dies*
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Date: 2009-06-19 08:04 am (UTC)I got a tumblr because one of my LJ friends suggested it, and so I did. At that point, I was already in an LJ slump because my updating was seriously lacking, and tumblr came to me at the perfect time. Tumblr's just an easy outlet to be like, "hey! this is cool!" or just a place for things that I want to save and look back on (like book quotes, pictures, etc). And I like that even that when I'm not updating my LJ, people still know I'm active via tumblr and can still be fannish with me. But what I like about LJ is, what you said, actual conversations and things. I think that's what separates tumblr and LJ since tumblr doesn't have a commenting function. I end up sort of rehashing what I say on tumblr onto LJ anyhow. Still, tumblr feels more like an ADHD thing to me and LJ is the place for ~deep thoughts~ (which probably explains why I'm off at tumblr!).
Twitter's more of a real life thing for me? I just post mundane things on there that I couldn't be bothered with on LJ, or things that I need people to know RIGHT NOW. Twitter and LJ was never a problem for me, though.
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Date: 2009-06-19 09:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-19 09:50 am (UTC)I have to go to work, but I am leaving this open in a ~tab~ so I can respond to it when I get home.
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Date: 2009-06-20 02:20 am (UTC)yaoiTumblr/Twitter/LJ.LJ is where I feel I have friends aka you guys. It's a place where I go to read about people's lives, where they go into indepth stuff, it's more personal and a real home for me. Tumblr is all about PICTURES AND PRETTY AND OMG FUN HAPPY YAY GOOD TIMES and is basically quick pictures and things I want to share on the fly. Twitter is like 'oh hey, what's up.' Short, sweet, updates about my life, that are not imptorant enough for LJ or don't warrant a full update. But LJ is still where I retreat to when I want to really update and post something meaningful.
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Date: 2009-06-19 10:08 am (UTC)I cannot stand Twitter. I just don't understand it, I guess. I don't have a facebook. I have no idea what tumblr is. One would think that I'm forty. instead of nineteen. It's just effort and I maintain that twitter etc are just fads.
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Date: 2009-06-19 10:34 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-06-21 11:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-19 01:14 pm (UTC)Twitter I'm pretty lousy at. I like make a post every 6 days or so lol. Facebook I use more to catch up on what everyone else is doing that updating my own stuff. And I'm not really with anything else.
LJ still remains my goto place when I'm looking to post something. I love the people and the comments and the things you can find on here.
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Date: 2009-06-19 01:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-21 11:49 pm (UTC)YES TOTALLY. And I guess everyone else feels this way too? BUT LIKE, you guys are my friends! I've known you since we were like, 13? SIX YEARS. Granted we didn't meet on LJ, but... still!
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Date: 2009-06-19 03:54 pm (UTC)I'm not worried about LJ though. There are some things (fic, fanmixes, etc) that can't really be posted elsewhere, or that I think a lot of people think of as LJ things, so I think it'll be ok. People still have specific reasons to come back here, and every once in a while everyone gets the urge to make long, rambly posts about tv shows....right? AND THEN THERE ARE POLLS, MY FAVOURITE OF FAVOURITE THINGS. So I hope LJ is safe, because I like it, even if internet activities and types of posts get siphoned into particular internet mediums (random comments/links for twitter, fic/polls/mixes/rambly thoughts for LJ, who knows what for tumblr, etc.).
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Date: 2009-06-21 11:55 pm (UTC)Actually, selfishness is really what it's all about, isn't it? I know LJ itself isn't going anywhere for the reasons you cited, buuuuuuut sometimes it feels like people are? And that is what makes me cranky.
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Date: 2009-06-22 01:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-22 05:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-23 12:43 am (UTC)There should be a website to help you with that. Did your friends have any details? Are Erica and Ethan still together? Wait, let me just answer that with a yes, they have to be.
I hope we can have our conversation sooooon!
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Date: 2009-06-19 04:45 pm (UTC)Lately I've found that what I use LJ for is a vehicle not to blog, but to post in communities or comment or keep up with my flist. Now that I blog for work (and that's, uh, my life) I don't really have the time or care to write about my life. If I want to talk to someone, I IM them or e-mail them, or they come to me, or I comment on their LJ, but I guess part of my growing up is not needing to say out loud in a grandiose fashion every thought I have (just most of them, and I construe it as work, huzzah!). As soon as I have the time to create a blog that's a hub of all my writing I'm officially "closing" my LJ to posts (but I'm staying, I'm just letting everyone know where to find my writings/not to expect me to update). BUT I WILL NEVER LEAVE LJ. And while I love twitter with people I know outside of it, knowing people through twitter only is weird/lame. I guess what I'm saying is, each site has it's own merits.
Also, I am the queen of tabs. I usually have way more open, because I forget to close them, but I had a bazillion tabs before tabs were even cool. Then again, I have really bad ADD, and need to have at least three things running or my brain starts to feel itchy, so that may also be it. (HOW DO PEOPLE FUNCTION WITHOUT VIDEO IN ONE TAB, A BLOG POST IN ANOTHER, AND THEIR TWITTERFOX FEED OPEN!?!?) I've had this my whole life, even before the internet (holy shit there was a tme before the internet?), and so when God smiled down upon me and said "LET THERE BE THE INTERWEBS, AND BROWSING WITH TABS" I was like "FINALLY, MY BRAIN! IN A COMPUTER!!!"
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Date: 2009-06-19 05:42 pm (UTC)Basically, I kinda hate twitter and love LJ because I have lots of thoughts and enjoy actually talking to people. Like this.
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Date: 2009-06-19 05:54 pm (UTC)But I think the whole Twitter communication thing is really fascinating. It's really a phenomenon. Pretty cool if you ask me.
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Date: 2009-06-19 05:55 pm (UTC)Tumblr is excellent, all my rl friends have one and its a great way of sharing and remembering/storing cool things you find on the internet.
Not a fan of Twitter though and I would never fully leave LJ, tumblr is a completely different experience.
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Date: 2009-06-19 11:20 pm (UTC)I...kind of have no interest in posting on LJ anymore. For a lot of reasons that I don't feel like getting into right now. I still enjoy reading my flist though!
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Date: 2009-06-20 03:01 am (UTC)Sorry, this was so ranty. :-\
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Date: 2009-06-21 11:42 pm (UTC)I AGREE WITH THIS SENTIMENT SO, SO MUCH. I cannot even articulate it but like, okay, I get that you can post a single picture on tumblr, but in what way are we prevented from doing that on LJ?
I mean, okay -- there are a lot of fun little theme-sites -- stuff about Chuck Bass' wardrobe, pictures of various actors -- that have popped up. I guess I just don't understand HOW you can have both. Or rather, how I could have both -- I only have so much to say, I couldn't spread it out between a personal LJ and a personal tumblr. (Also, I can't imagine working with a lack of text comments?)
Anyway yeah, I... agree. I don't want to be fussy, BUT COME BACK TO THE LJ SANDBOX AND PLAY WITH ME :(
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Date: 2009-06-22 01:17 am (UTC)I don't know, I don't know. Maybe I'm being too philosophical about this all, but I miss my LJ friends. I really care about the friends I've made here – some of them a lot – and it makes me nervous (sad? annoyed? confused?) that LJ seems to kind of be...disappearing.
I like those theme Tumblrs! I really do enjoy reading people's Tumblrs, I just wish it didn't have to be an either/or situation.
BUT COME BACK TO THE LJ SANDBOX AND PLAY WITH ME :(
PLEASE. WE ARE COOL, AS TUMBLRLESS AS WE ARE.
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Date: 2009-06-22 02:05 am (UTC)I really care about the friends I've made here – some of them a lot – and it makes me nervous (sad? annoyed? confused?) that LJ seems to kind of be...disappearing.
I GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN WORRYING ABOUT THIS AND... not. On the one hand there are people I will always have, and LJ is necessary for a lot of things and it's not like it's... everyone... yet? BUT ON THE OTHER, more and more people are... posting less here and more there.
WE ARE COOL, AS TUMBLRLESS AS WE ARE.
EXACTLY.
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Date: 2009-06-20 06:30 am (UTC)I love LiveJournal, and I hate the fact that posts have slowed down. I think it's so much more personal (for obvious reasons) than anything else out there and I like that I can just connect with people from other sides of the globe with similar interests. For me, LJ is more about this than 'blogging', if you like.
here is how i feel about lj/twitter/tumblr; how i feel, here it is.
Date: 2009-06-20 08:49 am (UTC)Hmm, I don't feel like sharing every single detail of my life on LJ anymore, like I used to, when I first got it. I do that on Twitter now, sort of like, "hey sup, this is what I'm doing, thinking, right NOW" because it's super easy to do through my cell phone, unlike LJ. Tumblr is good for quotes, I think, because it makes them look pretty (ha, I know, priorities, right?) and for really really random pictures or gifs or IDK ANYTHING RANDOM-- random/nonsense/silliness, as in considered too spammy for my flist.
My reading habits? I... like checking all three. I like following LJ friends on twitter and tumblr.
This reply was all over the place, probably as a result of having placed the three sites in different categories?
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Date: 2009-06-21 03:09 am (UTC)LiveJournal has been ridiculously non-existent lately. I miss it. I'm like you in that sense - i'm all about the wordiness and the thinking through words and --- haha I just thought I heard the facebook pinging noise and got distracted --- but this post, your post, is what I love about LiveJournal, the longish winded posts about real things and people's lives and the world. I really really miss that. Really really really.
And I use twitter, but I'm over twitter, too. I use it for me, because I've found that the more I started using it, the more I started needing to use it. I'd update about something stupid and then when I had something stupid to update about, it would be something I'd feel compelled to text to Twitter. I hate myself for it. But somewhere along the way, recently, I stopped caring. I only get the updates of people I know on my phone, with the exception of cnn breaking news and borders, and even borders is likely to go away soon. And even that usually seems like too much. It's all useless information that clearly people - myself included - text to twitter because they have no one to text it to, because it's mundane, stupid, utterly pointless. And, hell, in my case it's often so cryptic that it's clearly only something that I understand, but yet I do it anyway.
And as for tumblr, I don't use it the way I'm supposed to. It's a public livcejournal, in a sense, for me. It's something that I can share with a couple of real life people - with a few people from here, sort of - and that's it. It's still a place for my thoughts, and sometimes they're half thoughts or cryptic ones that don't make sense, but sometimes they're long-winded and messy - the same way my posts are on here, sort of, though it's different becaause it's public and clearly public and i think my writing style changes because of that. The point is that I don't use tumblr like I'm supposed to; I use it how I want to and because I love the simplicity of it, the hasic layout, hell, even the lack of lj-cuts as one person I follow (lol a band guy?) so nicely noted.
I hate the way the internet is changing things, Alex. And I know we're a part of it and it is going to change, but I don't like watching the local news and listening to them tell me to follow them on twitter and check their facebook page for updates. I don't want the news in 140-character bursts, and I don't want to read about what Sally NewsAnchor thought of the flag day fireworks. I don't care. I want the news to be the news and the internet to be the internet, but I'm so far in the minority that it doesn't matter, because it's going to change and it's going to stay that way, if Time can have covers about Twitter and Obama's twitter can re-tweet the whitehouse twitter. That's the world we've somehow come to inhabit, and I'm really not sure I like it at all.
Basically I love this post.
Also it's totally the most hypocritical thing ever, because you post like once a month now, darling. ♥
(P.S. I miss you; why don't we talk like at all anymore? :(.)
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Date: 2009-06-21 11:32 pm (UTC)AHAHAHA. Livejournal likes cryptic stuff too, Melissa! THE SERVER MISSES YOU!
Well I guess not, you have been posting.
IDK DUDE, you know how I feel about twitter but like:
a) my username is AWESOME
b) sometimes it's really nice to be able to ask your flist like, where to buy DVDs when you are ~out and about~, although I guess I could do that on LJ, but ugh, more of a hassle than Twitterberry
c) boredom reliever, at least I don't play tetris on my phone anymore?
SO IN MY WORLD WHERE THE UNIVERSE REVOLVES AROUND ME, IT HAS A PURPOSE. (And in my world, tumblr does not.)
I hate the way the internet is changing things, Alex. And I know we're a part of it and it is going to change, but I don't like watching the local news and listening to them tell me to follow them on twitter and check their facebook page for updates. I don't want the news in 140-character bursts, and I don't want to read about what Sally NewsAnchor thought of the flag day fireworks. I don't care. I want the news to be the news and the internet to be the internet, but I'm so far in the minority that it doesn't matter, because it's going to change and it's going to stay that way, if Time can have covers about Twitter and Obama's twitter can re-tweet the whitehouse twitter. That's the world we've somehow come to inhabit, and I'm really not sure I like it at all.
A+ wording, I'm not going to elaborate. But I agree.
ALSO I HATE YOU NOW, duh.
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Date: 2009-06-21 06:26 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-06-21 02:51 pm (UTC)TWITTER JUST MAKES ME SO MAD, ALEX. Like, there is absolutely no reason for it at all. I understand people not wanting to make whole entries for things that can be summarised in a line. BUT BUT BUT. I guess it's a) I love lj and I hate change (you know I'm a grandma when it comes to these things), b) I like long, contemplative, wordy entries! and c) everyone is doing it, which makes me hate it immediately.
Re: tumblr, I think that's a pretty cool website, and I kiiiiind of lied when I said I didn't have one, because I do in theory. But it has never been used, because I'm (again) lazy when it comes to change & I never really got into it. But I don't hold such a grudge against tumblr. BUT I WILL CHANGE MY MIND IF IT'S TRUE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT USING LJ AS MUCH BECAUSE OF THESE TWO SITES. I guess I haven't really noticed? I probably will now though :(
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Date: 2009-06-21 11:26 pm (UTC)IAWTCONTRARINESS, basically. What is wrong with us :(
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Date: 2009-07-08 03:11 pm (UTC)The thing is, I just don't see the point of having 79 different ways of talking with the same people. I tried having a MySpace and a Facebook at the same time, around when I first got my Facebook, and it was just like, I don't need both of these to say the same things to the same people! And like you said, I like the idea of LiveJournal better because you can have substantial conversations, you can read fic, you can actually express yourself without worrying about wordcount.
BASICALLY: LJ WINS, THE END.
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Date: 2009-07-09 09:00 am (UTC)I will never tire of that icon.