my answer for all movies/tv shows/books -- I don't care about the sex ratio either way, all or mostly male, all or mostly female, evenly split, whatever. My only possible concern is that there might be at least one male-female mostly-platonic pair for me to hone in on.
I actually don't have a comment on the subject except to say that if Nurse Chapel isn't in the next movie (and also awesome), I will making a >:( face. Actually it doesn't have to be Nurse Chapel. Actually it would be better if there were more than one so it needs to be Nurse Chapel + at least one other awesome lady.
I picked "...both?" BECAUSE, WELL, HOW COULD I CHOOSE?
But ooooh, heeeey, most attractive Papa Kirk in the "Too Many Dicks" video. No, there are not enough women in Star Trek, even though Uhura is pretty awesome as far as women go. But I have to counter that with the fact that if JJ had decided to recast a few of the major characters as women, a lot of people would have had none of it. And YES, what does the opinion of fandom truly matter in the end, especially when it comes to opportunities for "non-standard," forward-moving casting, but sometimes a franchise is a franchise, and...yeah. But I guess there could have been more women just aroooound doing Star Fleet stuff, not just sleeping with cute would-be captains.
P.S. I REALLY LIKE THOSE VIDEOS, AND THE MEN IN THAT FILM ARE REALLY CUTE, BUT ALSO, GIRL POWER. BUT ALSO GOOD LOOKING MENFOLK. AND GIRL POWER.
(Also, the lyrics to "Too Many Dicks" are actually hilarious. Not enough ladies, too many mans. HAHAHAHAH, I'M LOLING.
AAH, MORE LIKE, TOO MANY EDITS, NOT ENOUGH CLAIRE KNOWING HOW TO WRITES.
I think in that the direction JJ chose to go - alternate reality, he really had no choice but to keep the main character female to male ratio the same. That being said, now that he's got an established universe, if he doesn't include more females in the sequel, we will have words.
My answer: NONE OF THEE ABOVE. I don't really think about how many dudes versus how many ladies pop up in things, probably because sex doesn't have any additional weight in my liking/disliking of a character. (Though I do tend to have to be more defensive of the ladies I like, I think my interests split evenly.) Honestly it concerns me more when the ladies there are are being portrayed in an unfair/cliche fashion or if fandom is a dick about awesome ladies, because both happen way too often for my liking.
And that being said, I think JJ was just maintaining what the original main TOS cast was. I suppose he could have done a Starbuck-esque gender switch for somebody though, like they did with the new BSG. (The result of that was pretty awesome.)
omg, I still haven't seen it. It was between seeing Terminator Salvation and Star Trek and well, Christian Bale. unf. I mean, Chris Pine is hot but I've loved Christian longer. That and I know nothing of star trek.
This is totally random, but I'm thinking doing a picspam of the "Out of Your Dreams" ballet sometime (when I can get my hands on a copy), y/y? And maybe the barnyard dance from Seven Brides for Seven Brothers and eiiiither "America" or "Dance at the Gym" from West Side Story? And if you wanted to, you could do one of your awesome polls about the awesomeness of the dances? IDK, IDK, this is just an idea that's been formulating. I've been watching the "Out of Your Dreams" ballet on YouTube, and ooooh, it is lovely.
I DID NOT NOTICE BECAUSE... I... AM A BAD FEMINIST? AM UNOBSERVANT? PERHAPS A COMBINATION OF THE TWO?
I will say, though, that more important than the ratio of women to men is the way said women and men are portrayed. One kickass lady makes up for a hundred wimpy damsels desiring nothing more than to fulfill their purpose as mothers. Or something like that. (Not that motherhood is bad, but, like. You know what I mean.)
i can't fault a movie based on a pre-established canon for the gender of its characters. so i just enjoyed all the pretty boys. but i understand that star trek is actually why fanfiction exploded, because women wanted to flesh out the female characters to more than just sex objects in miniskirts and go-go boots. and, ha, the "too many dicks on the dancefloor" video is fantastic!
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Date: 2009-06-14 05:25 am (UTC)Completely shameless and proud of it. ;)
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Date: 2009-06-14 05:28 am (UTC)I actually don't have a comment on the subject except to say that if Nurse Chapel isn't in the next movie (and also awesome), I will making a >:( face. Actually it doesn't have to be Nurse Chapel. Actually it would be better if there were more than one so it needs to be Nurse Chapel + at least one other awesome lady.
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Date: 2009-06-14 06:04 am (UTC)But ooooh, heeeey, most attractive Papa Kirk in the "Too Many Dicks" video. No, there are not enough women in Star Trek, even though Uhura is pretty awesome as far as women go. But I have to counter that with the fact that if JJ had decided to recast a few of the major characters as women, a lot of people would have had none of it. And YES, what does the opinion of fandom truly matter in the end, especially when it comes to opportunities for "non-standard," forward-moving casting, but sometimes a franchise is a franchise, and...yeah. But I guess there could have been more women just aroooound doing Star Fleet stuff, not just sleeping with cute would-be captains.
P.S. I REALLY LIKE THOSE VIDEOS, AND THE MEN IN THAT FILM ARE REALLY CUTE, BUT ALSO, GIRL POWER. BUT ALSO GOOD LOOKING MENFOLK. AND GIRL POWER.
(Also, the lyrics to "Too Many Dicks" are actually hilarious. Not enough ladies, too many mans. HAHAHAHAH, I'M LOLING.
AAH, MORE LIKE, TOO MANY EDITS, NOT ENOUGH CLAIRE KNOWING HOW TO WRITES.
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Date: 2009-06-14 06:12 am (UTC)This would be more eloquent, but I am drunk.
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Date: 2009-06-14 12:17 pm (UTC)And that being said, I think JJ was just maintaining what the original main TOS cast was. I suppose he could have done a Starbuck-esque gender switch for somebody though, like they did with the new BSG. (The result of that was pretty awesome.)
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Date: 2009-06-14 06:48 pm (UTC)I will say, though, that more important than the ratio of women to men is the way said women and men are portrayed. One kickass lady makes up for a hundred wimpy damsels desiring nothing more than to fulfill their purpose as mothers. Or something like that. (Not that motherhood is bad, but, like. You know what I mean.)
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