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elapsesI know we all have too many favorite scenes from the books for them to come close to keeping everything: these films are already bursting at the seams, and I am rarely really upset about things they leave out. I think the scene where Ron catches Ginny and Dean and she rails at him in anger is an essential part of the book-- important to understanding the whole Lavender thing and Ron himself, but if I were the one who had to make the decisions, I might've cut it too. In the end things like that don't really matter, because most of the audience can fill in the blanks with what they've read. That was okay. Mostly.
What was not okay was the last scene. It took five minutes for the camera to even acknowledge Ron's presence, AND HE DID NOT SPEAK. I think I would have hit something if Hermione had actually gotten to say the line, "we're with you whatever happens", but as it is she was given the spirit of it. I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE HASN'T HIT STEVE KLOVES WITH A METAPHORICAL BRICK YET, told him that his personal feelings about these characters should not seep into these films and change the story. Ron is not a dumb brute, he's not there to sit there and ask the stupid questions that Harry knows the answers to and Hermione has ~intuited~. He has a place, an important place, and he should be allowed to occupy it in the movies as he did in the books. Hermione is not equal to Harry, and she is not more than Ron. "I guess Ron's okay with you dating Ginny" was uncomfortably out of place, and only drew more attention to the fact that Ron is not part of the trio as Steve Kloves see it.
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veils: "it was so harry and hermione could have more sexual tension that they weren't supposed to". Hardy har har :|)
I guess the other thing that is tripping me up is the scene where Greyback and Bellatrix attack the Burrow at Christmas -- WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO REPLACE THE LACK OF A FIGHT SCENE AT THE END??? Was the book just too "slow" at that point? I can understand restructuring the story if there's a reason, but there wasn't one. WHAT THE FUCK.
Those are the things, mostly, that are keeping me from loving this movie. And I liked a lot of it -- I am quite fond of David Yates, the winding shot of Ron and Lavender going up the tower that then switched to Draco was maybe my favorite. Except I think my favorite thing about him is the way he integrates real, vibrant, "muggle" London into this story -- he did it in Order of the Phoenix and he did it again at the beginning here. (I was gutted by the scene in OotP where they're flying over the city by broom the first time I saw it -- in a way I depend on these films, because as vibrant as the story is for me, I am so thoroughly left-brained and aural that I just don't visualize things).
Last night, right before I went to bed, when all the east coasters were getting home from their midnight showings,stepliana said this thing (and by the by, yeah, when I have got all my words out I will go see what you all really have to say behind all those cuts, since that is the way of things) about how incredibly accidental it seems that they've ended up with all the right actors for this story, given that they were kids when they were awarded these roles. But she's right. The actors are perfect.
It could have been great. It came close, but the errors were fatal.
What was not okay was the last scene. It took five minutes for the camera to even acknowledge Ron's presence, AND HE DID NOT SPEAK. I think I would have hit something if Hermione had actually gotten to say the line, "we're with you whatever happens", but as it is she was given the spirit of it. I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE HASN'T HIT STEVE KLOVES WITH A METAPHORICAL BRICK YET, told him that his personal feelings about these characters should not seep into these films and change the story. Ron is not a dumb brute, he's not there to sit there and ask the stupid questions that Harry knows the answers to and Hermione has ~intuited~. He has a place, an important place, and he should be allowed to occupy it in the movies as he did in the books. Hermione is not equal to Harry, and she is not more than Ron. "I guess Ron's okay with you dating Ginny" was uncomfortably out of place, and only drew more attention to the fact that Ron is not part of the trio as Steve Kloves see it.
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veils: "it was so harry and hermione could have more sexual tension that they weren't supposed to". Hardy har har :|)I guess the other thing that is tripping me up is the scene where Greyback and Bellatrix attack the Burrow at Christmas -- WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO REPLACE THE LACK OF A FIGHT SCENE AT THE END??? Was the book just too "slow" at that point? I can understand restructuring the story if there's a reason, but there wasn't one. WHAT THE FUCK.
Those are the things, mostly, that are keeping me from loving this movie. And I liked a lot of it -- I am quite fond of David Yates, the winding shot of Ron and Lavender going up the tower that then switched to Draco was maybe my favorite. Except I think my favorite thing about him is the way he integrates real, vibrant, "muggle" London into this story -- he did it in Order of the Phoenix and he did it again at the beginning here. (I was gutted by the scene in OotP where they're flying over the city by broom the first time I saw it -- in a way I depend on these films, because as vibrant as the story is for me, I am so thoroughly left-brained and aural that I just don't visualize things).
Last night, right before I went to bed, when all the east coasters were getting home from their midnight showings,
stepliana said this thing (and by the by, yeah, when I have got all my words out I will go see what you all really have to say behind all those cuts, since that is the way of things) about how incredibly accidental it seems that they've ended up with all the right actors for this story, given that they were kids when they were awarded these roles. But she's right. The actors are perfect.It could have been great. It came close, but the errors were fatal.
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