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So I was running kind of late and didn't get to watch it live (I got home and walked in in the middle of the Boomer/Adama/Tigh flashback all "I CAN TOTALLY JUMP IN IN THE MIDDLE, IT'LL BE FINE" but maybe 30 seconds later I realized it wasn't fine at all and I would just have to wait for the download). So it was like 3 in the morning when I finally got to see it, and when it sort of faded to black after the scene with Adama and Roslin's grave I snapped my computer shut all "SWEET, I'M GOING TO SLEEP NOW" and didn't even realize there was more episode until this morning when I was reading reaction posts.

UGH I WISH I COULD HAVE LIVED IN IGNORANT BLISS AND NOT HAVE EVER KNOWN THAT STUPID ~AND NOW ON MODERN EARTH~ PART EXISTED. This morning I was thinking about how most of my finale issues were not actually issues with the finale itself at all but things that had been previously screwed up (Boomer, the final five), minor issues with all the puzzle pieces not quite fitting together, little things. As an episode and as a finale, I mostly really liked it.

Except even then I was kind of annoyed about the whole "Earth" thing. The "Earth is a dream" scene was sweet all by itself, but within the context of "let's breed with the indigenous locals! And spread ourselves out! And ~give them the good parts of ourself~!" just... wasn't what I wanted. I always liked the kind of alternate universe quality BSG had to it, what with the destroyed Earth and all the Kobol mythology tied back into our own constellations, and I hate that they felt they had to bring it back to this planet with our exact continents. YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW MUCH WORSE I FEEL ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING NOW THAT I HAVE SEEN THAT LAST SCENE.

Just.................................... BLERG. How unnecessary. AND HOW SENSELESS. Seriously linguistically (if we're meant to believe they "gave" us English) and astronomically (OUR FREAKING CONSTELLATIONS) and just ANTHROPOLOGICALLY IN GENERAL it just DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL and that stupid little robot montage at the end and just, god, why do we have to be part of this universe???????? IT SHOULD HAVE JUST ENDED WITH THEM.

WHATEVER, otherwise I was pretty happy with it. I was so sure Helo was dead for those fortyish minutes (although I keep wondering if it was actually that long or if being stressed about the future of my Agathons made it seem longer) that it was messing with my ability to just watch the episode, though-- I was so upset when Kara showed up on the bridge because when he told Athena to run off I TOTALLY trusted her to take care of him. I think I am going to choose to believe that she was the one to get him to sickbay before she ran off to furfill her special destiny, actually.

Oh, and re: Kara-- I was pretty okay with her ambiguous ending. And you know what? Even if we are meant to believe that her human body died on actual!Earth, whatever it was that came back was Kara Thrace.

ANYWAY,
IN CONCLUSION,
the scene with the cane and the hunting jokes and the way it kind of tied back to the start was all I could have asked for. If it hadn't taken place in our own freaking Africa >:( WHYYYYYYYYYYYY.

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I KNOW. I HAVE ALWAYS HATED THE IDEA OF THEM LANDING ON OUR EARTH AND FINDING DINOSAURS OR NEANDERTHALS AND SHIT. AND THEN THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND I WAS LIKE, "FUCK YOU." my idea was better - that the show took place so far in our future that we mythologized our own history. and one of the things that made the end of "revelations" so powerful is that we thought it was our earth. people thought it looked like a bombed-out new york city when that episode first aired, for godssake!

YOUR IDEA WAS BETTER. I just, ew, what a stupid, preachy, logicless way to end this show.

I WAS SO SCARED HELO WAS DEAD, OMG. :( But I didn't watch the very ending because I was bored and no one else wanted to watch it with me so they were all complaining about it so idk what actually happened. I was kind of unimpressed with everyone suddenly being a Luddite and breeding with locals and shit, weeeeird. And lame.

I was also really unimpressed with that scene of Adama puking in the alley at the beginning DNW EVER TY.

YOU SHOULD BE GLAD, it was even lamer than the rest of it. I'M SORRY BUT THIS WHOLE IDEA OF TWO EARTHS JUST DOES NOT WORK for me. And I feel like I should be grateful because this is a happier ending than I ever could have imagined and... I like happy endings! JUST NOT WHEN THEY'RE LAME AND INVOLVE 35,000 GIVING UP ANTIBIOTICS TO GO HUNT GAZELLE.

AND TY, CATHERINE, I HAD ACTUALLY REPRESSED THAT LITTLE BIT OF GROSSNESS.

Hey do you know the song Violet Stars Happy Hunting!!! by Janelle Monae??? I think it would be CRAZY LOLARIOUS on a Helo/Athena mix, but unfortunately it would never work with any other songs.

Despite being really behind in BSG, I watched the finale as it aired. Lemme tell you, I was ready to flip a goddamn pool when Helo got shot and Athena left him and then they didn't mention him for again for like an HOUR WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT. I kind of get the feeling they had intended on killing him off, but rethought it and shot that adorable stuff at the end really quick. It seemed tacked-on. Cute, but tacked on.

And that is the extent of my thoughts on the finale.

I was ready to flip a goddamn pool when Helo got shot and Athena left him and then they didn't mention him for again for like an HOUR WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT.
IT WAS SERIOUSLY SO MEAN, I can't believe they made me sit there for that long going "MORE FUCKING ADAMA/ROSLIN???? CAN'T YOU DO THIS AFTER YOU TAKE FIVE SECONDS TO TELL ME IF HELO'S DEAD OR NOT???" You're probably right that they did intend to kill him off and changed their minds at the end, but it felt more like annoying emotional manipulation to me :(

I think if they were going for emotional manipulation they would have thrown in an ambiguous shot of Athena hugging Hera and crying. But they didn't, and considering how they've usually dealt with Helo ("Let's kill him off!" "But the audience loves him!" "Well then... let's not!" "Sounds great!") I wouldn't be surprised if they changed their mind at the last minute. ://///

Maybe this is because I didn't watch anything from season 4 but uhhhhh I am so over Adama/Roslin. :/

THIS IS TRUE.

I have been over Adama/Roslin since I watched the miniseries (lol all of six weeks ago), sry2say.

AND LOLOLOLOL THAT ICON. I backread meme's BSG shift yesterday, and I am kind of upset I missed it, it looks like it was moar fun than usual :(

I DIDN'T KNOW MY ICON WAS GOING TO BE PROPHETIC. >:D

IDK, I was 30 minutes ahead of everyone for some reason, so it wasn't that much fun for me. :(

THAT'S SO WEIRD! I thought BSG aired at the same time everywhere? Tbh that was one of my favorite things about getting into BSG -- I never get to do any live viewing parties with meme because of my time zone. Although that's probably for the best, I might still be watching Heroes if I were in eastern/central :/ Is it some weird Canada/Space channel thing?

I honestly don't know. I was watching it on Space, and I was 30 minutes out of sync with everyone else on meme. IDKY - possibly less commercials, or an earlier start or something? It was really strange. :/

I... kind of liked it? Yeah, it was basically, "okay, if you haven't gotten the message yet, allow us to HIT YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH IT." But I thought it was cool. Everyone seems to be divided half and half over that.

I really think they were going to kill Helo, then decided not to? I choose to believe Kara saved him too, because they are awesome bffs. I was just glad to see them being all happy at the end. You know, inbetween sobbing over Roslin, and Adama/Roslin, and freaking out over Kara. I thought that was the best ending for her, but I was still so surprised.

Also, I choose to believe that cylons don't age and hung around to make us who we are. That makes more sense to me.

I think part of it is that on a fundamental Alex level I do not want them to give up all their spacey technology and antibiotics and good things for prehistoric earth. And then, secondarily, this whole two earths thing is RIDICULOUS and NOT RIGHT, and thirdly it's the preachiness. BUT I'M GOING TO STOP, I know you loved it and I'm so glad you did and I hate ruining parades for people.

I really think they were going to kill Helo, then decided not to?
I can see that! It felt more manipulative and intentional to me as I was watching but now that the heat of the moment is over I guess you're probably right. I can't tell you how glad I am they didn't do that, Aly, but you probably already know.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. That does sound kind of lovely. But Tigh had hair when Adama met him? (CAN I SAY, since we're talking about cylons, it was weird: aside from my obvious, consuming love for Helo/Athena, the other two ships I was sort of more than passingly fond of were Baltar/Six and Tigh/Ellen, so... in a weird way, everything actually worked out really well for me, in terms of characters getting happy endings. POOR LEE THOUGH.)

dood i didn't even think about it that way until i read this post.
and u are right. it was a pretty stupid "earth" part... v. unnecessary and not v. creative

I feel like this was the kind of episode that's okay when you watch it but just kind of falls apart if you think about it too hard? At least that's how it was for me: sometimes it takes a little time for thing to click :(