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YOU GUYS I HAVE BEEN MEANING TO ASK YOU THIS FOREVER, I don't know why I never do, or even remember why I was reminded today but uhhhh, can we talk about our fictional kinks? LIKE, will you maybe think about the tropes and things that make you like fiction (any kind, from badfic to literature, from awful reality TV to your very favorite movie), the underlying message of all your favorites that ALWAYS DRAWS YOU IN. And then make me a list of them.

me
- So much codependency, I cannot even express it.
- Platonic best friends, extra points if it is a big (or small) group of platonic best friends who are KIND OF LIKE A REAL FAMILY
- Earnest dudes who are REALLY REALLY IN LOVE with very emotionally complicated girls, but very willing to step aside and wait and pine while said emotionally complicated girl sorts out her feelings.
- Fathers and daughters, mothers and sons. I guess mothers and daughters and fathers and sons too, I LIKE FAMILIES, but fathers and daughters is the bottom line one.
- Domesticity, always, but (sort of?) especially from people who either aren't together in any capacity or who you wouldn't expect to be domestic.
- K the word that keeps popping in here is "genderswap", but I don't mean genderswap and I hate actual genderswap when it pops up, LIKE WHAT A WASTE OF A STORY, but sometimes I just really like it... when dudes are mom-like and girls are dad-like and girls are the stereotypical "dude" in a relationship when guys are the stereotypical "girl". THAT KIND OF THING, I DON'T KNOW.
- Ridiculous miscommuncation errors.
- Best friends who are in love, but also best friends who are not in love.
- There is this link between my favorite movie (Bringing Up Baby), my favorite book (The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon), and my favorite television show (The X-Files) that I cannot quite express in words, but it's like... the idea of some kind of quest, I guess. But it isn't the quest that matters, it's... maybe it is the quest. But something you have to do, that is important but separate from the rest of the world. Alone togetherness? SOMETHING. God I don't know.
- THIS ONE IS LONG AND IMPOSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN, but... I really like people whose lives get explained to them? Like. Okay, what happened is I imprinted on these two Voyager episodes at a very young age, one in which season 1 Captain Janeway gets lead around her ship by season 7 Chakotay, and another where B'Elanna has been brainwashed and Neelix has to walk her around and show her things as she slowly regains her memory. So now like, certain amnesia stories, within-a-lifetime time travel, and Christmas Carolesque stories all appeal to me to like, a gross degree.

I DON'T KNOW, there are others, I suppose, I am going to think about this too.

Date: 2010-09-19 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com
Carrying! Also please, T/L is one big mess of miscommunication, THAT IS KIND OF WHY I PUT THAT THERE.
Edited Date: 2010-09-19 02:07 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-19 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenmelisande.livejournal.com
LOL that was the only one I could think of, I am trying to make a list rn. And yeah but that's not like, how I thought/think of it? I don't know... I MEAN I GUESS IF YOU PHRASE IT LIKE THAT, but I really file that under "emotional retardation" tbh.

Date: 2010-09-19 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com
OH MY GOD I FORGOT EMOTIONAL RETARDATION, what is wrong with me

Date: 2010-09-19 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com
WOW PSEUDOCHOI IS JUDGING ME SO HARD RIGHT NOW

I guess I deserve it, emotional retardation is probably my actual biggest one.

Date: 2010-09-19 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenmelisande.livejournal.com
LOL PSEUDOCHOI IS ALWAYS JUDGING. Much like Sungmin.

OKAY HERE IS MY LIST:

- fathers and daughters
- older brother figures (and i guess older sisters too? idk.)
- emotional retardation/allergic to feelings
- people carrying other people
- bffs who fall in love
- ridiculous pining
- platonic love of any kind but especially between a boy and a girl
- people losing things and starting over, i guess? like those fics i told you about that were exactly the same, where the main character's significant other dies, but also like that time we got really into sarah/shaw and made up that au - that's sort of the same idea.
- girls who are dudes and boys who have too many feelings
- codependency, obviously
- domesticity, especially either a) domesticity forced by ridiculous external forces or b) unwitting domesticity
- trapped together thinking they're going to die
- i am trying to figure out how to describe "harry kim" as a trope...

it is entirely possible I forgot things.
Edited Date: 2010-09-19 02:26 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-19 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com
- i am trying to figure out how to describe "harry kim" as a trope...
Crying omg I was trying to do that too... THERE REALLY ISN'T A WAY TO WORD IT, but considering we have a Harry Kim v2 and a Harry Kim v3... uh. You kind of have to count it.

The one about people losing things and starting over is interesting, though, I wouldn't've thought of the Sarah/Shaw AU in those terms I guess. I mean it fits that! I guess I was just drawing on different kinks when we were coming up with that.

Date: 2010-09-19 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenmelisande.livejournal.com
LIKE, HE IS OUR ACTUAL #1 DUDE, we want every boy to be like him. I guess it's not a fiction trope so much as a character trope, but IT IS DEFINITELY SIGNIFICANT. ...to us.

It's like, losing something that meant a lot to you and having to build up a whole new life, and maybe the new life isn't the same/isn't as good, but it's good in its own way? And the other person/persons have to be really understanding/gentle about it and not force anything. I never really connected the Sarah/Shaw thing either until I was trying to figure out how to phrase it and I realized that that's a big reason why I liked them/that au idea too.

Date: 2010-09-19 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com
K BUT THERE'S LIKE... a certain amount of circumstance involved too, for him to properly enter into Harry Kim fml mode. I don't know. DEFINITELY VERY SIGNIFICANT.

WHY DO ALL OF OUR TROPES INVOLVE NOT FORCING THINGS
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Date: 2010-09-19 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com
INDEED.

It was rhetorical! I just think it's hilarious that so many of our kinks end in BUT HE DOESN'T PRESSURE HER INTO ANYTHING, like, to insane degrees. LOOK AT 3.5 ON THE IN LOVE WITH YOUR BFF SCALE.

Date: 2010-09-19 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenmelisande.livejournal.com
lol my oversharing strikes again. BUT LOL Y SERIOUSLY, THAT'S LIKE...ALL OF THEM. And I mean, on our entire "in love with your bff" scale THERE IS NO PRESSURING ANYWHERE......

Date: 2010-09-19 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com
DUDE ALL THE ANGST ON THE IN LOVE WITH YOUR BFF SCALE COMES FROM THE EXCESSIVE LACK OF PRESSURE...

Date: 2010-09-19 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenmelisande.livejournal.com
LMFAO YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD THERE.

also i forgot another one, which is:
- platonic cuddling/snuggling/comforting/hugging!!!!!!
Edited Date: 2010-09-19 04:05 am (UTC)

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