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So I guess if you ever want me to watch something I am resistant to watching, the trick is to say "If you do I'll watch Friday Night Lights, Alexandra!!"

It is very strange to watch something you have so long heard about in snatches of feeling but not in actual illustrations of plot-- it creates this strangely automatic detachment. Um. Do you all do the thing where you read reaction posts for things you don't watch? I do a lot but not always, I guess it depends on who's reacting and how bored I am when it's posted. Anyway I think I read about BSG more frequently than the other shows I don't watch and it's strange how little of everything I know from that. I guess it's that it's a rather complexly plotted show, and I never really cared enough to even keep the characters straight in my head. I guesssss I have to do that now.

Okay so I have a question about the religious element though (I mean if it doesn't like spoil me or something? But I don't know why it would?): have the Cylons created their own form of religion? It's really interesting to me how Six talks of God when everyone else talks of Gods, what a strange little disconnect! Actually no, of course they wouldn't have the same religious beliefs, but the idea that the Cylons have a religion at all is crazy and pretty neat actually. I actually like Six in general, is that weird? Her haunting of Gaius is strangely hilarious.

I'm craaaaazy curious about how all this relates back to Earth and... regular humanity (especially since Apollo is one of their Lord... Gods, too?) buttttttt I guess that's why you keep watching. You guys it's so weird, it's been like... a really long time since I've watched something this plot-driven. Everything else I watch is about characters and their relationships and real life, and it's weird because at one point everything I was into had some grand, important purpose to offset the character stuff. This... thought doesn't really have a point because I don't think either way is necessarily better it's just... weird! To be thrown headfirst back into plotland.

In that vein I kind of have no idea how I feel about most of the characters yet. Which I guess makes sense, when I was trying to articulate miniseries thoughts to

stop_theworld yesterday she said this: What I love about Battlestar is that you will have your favorites and your not-so-favorites, but you will also love and hate each and every one of them at some point, because they are so so human, and they are so so human in the middle of the apocalypse, which tends to intensify everything a lot. So.
ANYWAY RIGHT NOW: Sharon's (both Sharons') scenes are my favorite by farrrrrrr, I kind of love her and I think maybe I have some crazy weird fascination with this cylon/human thing, because of my weird fixation on her and Six both. And Leeeeeeeeeeeee, I kind of love him too? I don't know if that's the rational part of my brain or the part of my brain that's really really really attracted to Jamie Bamber. ALSO DEE IS ADORABLE. And Kara's fun, I like grinny people and she was definitely interesting in the one I just finished. BUT UM, I feel like I just finished a sick amount of television (the miniseries is LONG, christ) and it's weird to only have these vague attachments to most of these people? BUT YES, I guess... I will have to wait and see.

It's also kind of weird that they're doing mundane things like dealing with prisons and thinking about elections and training people???? I guess I thought it would be ALL WAR AND INTENSE LOOKS (and sex) ALL THE TIME. But of course that was dumb, what was I thinking.

ALL FOR YOU, DIZZY. AND HAPPY JUST BARELY BELATED BIRTHDAAAAAAAAY. I'm sorry I didn't sing :(

The Office was actually really delightful (and hilarious!) last night, I MISSED THAT FEELING. Too bad 3D Chuck wasn't. And now I'm going to watch tonight's HIMYM and pray my eyeballs don't fall out from all this TV before I get to the last eight pages of this gender studies reading.

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Hmm? I'm still somewhat confused by the religious aspect on the show. I think the cylons are monotheistic while the humans are polytheistic. It's odd to believe in just one "god" and the humans find the cylons religion to be strange. It's almost like the cylons are Christians (which I doubt they are) and the humans are ancient Pagans. It's interesting! haha.

Leeeee! Yes, I love Lee. He tries his best to be good and do what he thinks is fair for all involved. Even if he whines a lot at times.

Yes! Sharon was one of my FAVORITES in season one. I was so Boomer/Chief. OMG! All of you people watching da BSG is making me want to re-watch SO BADLY.

Oh, BSG. Such a yummy, complex show. The philosophy behind it will make your head explode. And the people are pretty, which is really the most important part.

Possibly unconnected to your post, possibly not, but something I always liked about BSG was that it always left me free to make up my own mind about things. I've seen season 1 a few times now, and I remember how, when I first watched it, I was all about Apollo and Starbuck while being completely bored with Helo and Sharon. Since rewatching that has totally turned around, because the show gave me things about all the characters to consider and turn over in my mind. The characterization is so good.

IDK, that doesn't make much sense now that I've said it. /o\

nothing much to add just ICON LOVE!!!

And BSG is a great show, but you have to really pay attention, so sometimes I still get confused a lot. And yay for tonight's HIMYM!

Ha, this is kind of weird. I'm up to episode 1x04 too! I feel like I've watched a full season though because of how long that miniseries was! Anyway, I still have no idea how I feel about most of the characters. While I was watching the miniseries I thought I may never be able to keep them all straight, but I think I finally know everyone's names and kind of have a flimsy grasp on who they are. I really like the show, but I still feel pretty distant from it. I think I need to watch more episodes.

Hey I have a question! So you know how another copy of Sharon (that is a weird thing to say) is with Helo? Well, does she know she's a Cylon yet? I am so confused by this whole concept. I think towards the end of the miniseries I wasn't paying full attention to everything, because I'm really unclear on how that works. Because remember how at the end of the miniseries when all of those other Cylons walked in and Sharon was there...I'm assuming that Sharon knew she was a Cylon. Or maybe not. I have no idea.

I should probably start paying more attention.

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Do not feel weird for not being crazy for the characters yet. I remember watching the miniseries when it aired here and the show was already on episode 10 or so in the US. It took me the whole season to be all "I love those people." And everyone who watched the show based on a rec from me said something like it, that it's the plot that hooked them first.

And I hope you have some hardcore marathons so you can be all caught up and watch the finale live (or almost) and freak out with the rest of us. ;)

it's weird to only have these vague attachments to most of these people?
That's why it's so brill: it takes a while, but one day you find yourself thinking about it all the time and realize that, somewhere along the way, you stopped feeling unattached and started feeling crazy love for fictional characters.

The next two episodes are some of the finest ever made, honestly, and really brings home the 'this is a character show, too' aspect. OKAY I'LL STOP NOW BECAUSE I NEVER COMMENT AT YOU SO YEAH.

OH YAY, you're watching BSG as well!! It took me a while to like the characters, too - the miniseries just sets up what's happening and it is difficult to keep track when there's so much going on, though after a while you do know who everyone is. S1 is so great in terms of characterization, politics and realism. What I love so much about BSG is that while it is a sci-fi show, it's also really relatable and plausible, I think.

I LOVE SIX. I didn't think I would since she's really religious and the fact that she's the bad guy, but she's also very sweet and soft. And geeeez Tricia Helfer is so hot.

there's this essay in my battlestar galactica and philosophy book about monotheism being the chosen religion of slave races, like when the jews were in egypt. i wish i could remember the philosophy behind it right now, but i'd really have to read it again.

ANYWAY, YAAAAAY, BSG. i don't know what to make of your detachment. i could see that it might have something to do with reading reaction posts before watching the show (i never do that). but i really hope that it goes away at least by the end of the season. i myself had a very strong initial attachment to the chief of the deck and helo's sharon (fyi, she does know she's a cylon; it's her cylon mission to seduce helo), and four seasons later they're still my two favorites (even though neither one of them has been very front-and-center for a while now, which upsets me).

but anyway, it is a very plot-driven show, but the plot is really rooted in the characters and their relationships. i mean, at its heart it's really just a show about people figuring out how to live at the end of the world.

When I first started watching BSG, I had a hell of a time just keeping everyone straight, let alone deeply loving the characters. But just like your friend said, I ended up caring about just about all of them because they're so complicated and flawed and real, all of them. And I definitely go through cycles where I will be so in love with one (or several) characters and then they break my heart by doing something terrible or misguided, but they almost always find a way to worm their way into my heart again.

Or to put it more simply--give it time. Let the story and the characters sink in. Enjoy the ride.

YAY!! I'm excited that you're watching BSG. I hope you continue to like it! (I think you will.)

omg now I want to get you to watch something TOTALLY HORRIBLE just to see if that actually works.

...If you do, I'll watch Friday Night Lights with you!

Yeah, I felt the same way with the vague attachments. I actually didn't watch the miniseries first, which only led me to absolute confusion and frustration over who the hell these characters were and what was up with them. I think my thoughts in early season one were basically "Kara is really badass and awesome. I like Lee a lot. Kara/Lee is cute. Adama is cool. Laura Roslin is awesomesauce, and I like Billy's dynamic with her a lot." But it was like... I felt that way, but I didn't entirely care. I could have stopped watching and I wouldn't have felt like I was missing out on anything, it just wouldn't have been my type of show.

That changed obviously, and like I said it was late season 1 that really dragged me into the universe and made me go HOLY ~~SHIT~~ FRAK!!!1!111!!

I think the action misconception is a realllly popular one. It sounds cliche, but Battlestar is just a political drama set in space in which things happen to explode now and then.

Ugh, now I have to watch BSG, THANKS. Actually, it's on my list but I probably won't get to it any time soon, seeing as I go through things at a snail's pace. As of now it's after

A) The West Wing
B) XF S7
C) Psych
D) The Wire
E) Dr. Who
F) 30 Rock

WHY IS THERE SO MUCH GOOD TELEVISION OUT THERE? It's kind of annoying, but in an awesome way.

In other news...I still kind of feel like this show might not do it for me, though? I know I'm just saying that because I haven't given it the time of day yet, but I'm generally not very sci-fi-ey. Like, at all. Do you think I'd dig it?

I thought Chuck was fuuuuun! I mean, minus all the stupid Buy More stuff, which never fails to be utter suckage. AND ALSO THE LACK OF AWESOME/ELLIE. IDK, maybe I was blinded by the fact that Chuck ~*returned*~. (A part of me vaguely ships Casey with...Everybody? Is that weird?)

HOW SURPRISED WERE YOU THAT THE OFFICE WAS ACTUALLY FANTASTIC?

NO NO NO I just left the longest comment of ever DAMN YOU LIVEJOURNAL. :( :( :(

Um, so there was birthday thanks. ♥ And there was FNL episode two ramblings! Mainly about how I like Lyla a little more and Tyra and Landry got even awesomer and Tami is fabulous and I LOVE MATT SARACEN AND ERIC AND THE ENDING OMG.

And then there was telling you that loving Six is definitely definitely acceptable; I absolutely adore her. AND remind me to rec you the most epic crackfic ever when you get further in! I read it over and over again. And that Lee is one of the good ones. ♥ And that Kara will get to be so much more than just "fun." XD Aaaaaand. IDK. UGH I HATE LJ it was such a good comment. But anyway! I'm still not sure how you feel about it, I guess, so I really hope it catches fire for you soon and I thiiiink it will.

♥!

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