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elapses ([personal profile] elapses) wrote2008-11-20 12:33 pm
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HELLO.

SO I LEFT CLASS EARLY TODAY TO DRIVE MY DAD TO THE DMV, only to discover (in an ironic twist, seeing as I had his car) he was gone. I called him and he said something about "having two meetings" and he's going tomorrow instead, but he didn't want to bother me in class. WHICH, WHATEVER, but isn't telling your daughter not to come get you so she doesn't ditch her next class for no reason (especially after last week, OH GOD) what text messaging was INVENTED FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE? >:(

WHATEVER, WORLD, I AM GOING TO BE A STUDENT-DELINQUENT AND SIT HERE AND WATCH LAST NIGHT'S FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS.


Idk if you remember my purse dilemma, but I ended up buying the blue one from the place and about a week ago I got the package, and inside was NOT, in fact, a strawberry purse, but the ugliest little faux-leather crocodile wallet I have EVER seen in my life. I emailed them about exchanging the thing I got for the thing I bought, but I think the guy misunderstood me, because he was all "well we can process your return for AMICI ACCESSORIES STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE and refund you and then you can buy a new purse!" BUT I DO NOT WANT A NEW PURSE, I want to be free of ugly crocodile wallet, and I want the purse I bought. YOU FUCKED UP, AND YOU SHOULD FIX IT. I really just need to call them, but I keep remembering at odd hours :( Except for now, when it is actually the middle of the day. I have no idea why I am writing a whiny LJ entry instead of calling them right now.

But I actually didn't decide to post so I could be fussy, I wanted to make a poll about the pimping of new fandoms (and pretend, for the sake of argument, that the new fandom in question is not something you have seen everywhere already and have whatever preconcieved notions about-- it is new, relatively fresh, and you do not):

[Poll #1300985]
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[identity profile] unlovablehands.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually "Ang! This has psychics in!" worked for Supernatural for a while, but I got tired of it in S2 anyway.

[identity profile] aliice.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
i heart your polls

[identity profile] book-babe.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
um, you're sort of the friend that i was thinking of, though lol we are not fandom friends really at all, and how we got into the office togetherish.

i'm not sure this holds for other poeple.

also that fucking sucks about class, i'm sorry.

[identity profile] barilace.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
LMAO. I completely read a part of your poll incorrectly. Ignore my answers. Alright? *hides face*

[identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
YOUR KINK IS REALLY CONSISTENT.

[identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
i heart you!

by the way, have you seen last night's fnl yet? i just finished it and TEARS.
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[identity profile] unlovablehands.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I LOVE ALL PSYCHICS. I'm trying to think of a time that didn't actually work for me, and I CAN'T THINK OF ONE. "He's a telepath!" is what got me to read Twilight (although it does not hit my psychic kinks at all, and I dislike Edward!)

[identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
hahaha, GOD I CAN BE IRRITATING.

And regarding class: my life is very difficult, you know.

[identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I was wondering what crazy person is turned off by pretty picspams. YOU CAN GO BACK AND FILL IT OUT IF YOU CLICK INTO THE POLL, YOU KNOW.

[identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't even realize Edward was a telepath. Is that a trait unique to him or is it part of all the Twilight vampires? BECAUSE IF SO STEPHENIE MEYER'S VAMPIRES ARE EVEN MORE WEIRD AND WRONG THAT I'D PREVIOUSLY ASSUMED.
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[identity profile] unlovablehands.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
no. basically if you were predisposed to being a certain way as a human, you become moarso as a vampire, so edward became a telepath, and alice became a trufax precog, and jasper is an empath (in the regular sense, not in the sense of peter petrelli), but a lot of the vampires have more regular traits: rosalie became the most beautiful girl in the world, and emmett is rly strong, and carlisle has IRON WILL or something.

[identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess the vampire thing alone wasn't special snowflakey enough?
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[identity profile] unlovablehands.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh, i don't think that's that weird an idea, though. i mean, especially since becoming a vampire is basically her metaphor for becoming a mormon, kinda, so it makes sense that she's like "jesus takes all the awesome things about you and makes them EVEN MOAR AWESOME!"

[identity profile] thelittlespy.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I am contrary, excessive, sloppy enthusiasm for a show makes me NOT want to watch it. It makes no sense, but if pimping lacks dignity, I will probably not even give something a go. A well-written paragraph by someone whose taste I trust goes MUCH further than picspam and exclamation points. (And maybe it's just me, but I don't care about picspam unless it's a show I watch.)

But I'm totally ambivalent about the whole idea of pimping shows, anyway. I will certainly say good things about a show or recommend it, but past a certain point, if someone doesn't want to watch a show I think is wonderful, then I can't sit down and hold their eyelids open. ALSO, I can get a little snobbish about it: for instance, I may talk about XF incessantly, but I never try to make people watch it, because I feel like, if you are awesome enough to deserve that show, you can find it on your own.

Wow, I'm really cranky about these things, apparently!

[identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so Twilight-ignorant I didn't even realize the vampire thing was her metaphor for her religion, but that actually makes a lot of sense.
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[identity profile] unlovablehands.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
idk if it was intended to be or not, but it works really well as such, so that's how i read it.

[identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It's okay, I'm contrary too! And this poll is actually a useless way to measure these things, because (for me at least!) so much of it depends on who it's coming from. Enthusiasm (and I didn't mean the sloppy kind) from a person I know I tend to agree with will pique my curiosity, but enthusiasm from someone else can just as easily sour me on something for no... real reason. It's the same with picspams of fandoms I'm not familiar with-- there are maybe 4-7 people who could easily lure me in with one, but in the end I'm much more likely to scroll past something I'm not familiar with. BECAUSE I AM A CRANKY STICK IN THE MUD.

ALSO, I can get a little snobbish about it: for instance, I may talk about XF incessantly, but I never try to make people watch it, because I feel like, if you are awesome enough to deserve that show, you can find it on your own.

[identity profile] mushfromnewsies.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I forgot to say -- I can only imagine being compelled to watch something if someone demonstrates that they can actually articulate what is good about it, and if I agree that those things are good. Then, if I do watch it, and I decide it's none of that, it's just crap, well of course I am always right!

Basically The X-Files has ruined me for all TV. I have had a few flings -- The West Wing, Law and Order, Law and Order: SVU, The Office, but they were just for fun. And they were over in a few months, and I either didn't get involved in fandom, or didn't like much of what I saw of it.

Except for Spaced! Spaced rocks.

[identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I assumed the articulation was somewhat implied, I cannot imagine someone really being persuaded to watch something by one of those fangirls, or anyone who just says "UGH, THIS IS THE BEST SHOW ON TV" over and over (but maybe the "BEST SHOW" thing is a personal pet peeve?).

There is definitely something about XF that makes it something of a crown jewel fandom, though.

[identity profile] silverstars.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, Alex, you always have the best polls!

One of my biggest pet peeves EVER is when someone tries to force a show on me. There is a difference between enthusiasm and obnoxious overhype. I don't think everyone realizes that.

[identity profile] thelittlespy.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha, I'm glad you agree! Because after I posted, I was all, I'm a bitch! But you're right, it TOTALLY depends on who's doing the pimping. Or the suggesting or whatever. And I guess it generally tracks that the people who I trust aren't generally going to pimp in an obnoxious way.

in the end I'm much more likely to scroll past something I'm not familiar with. BECAUSE I AM A CRANKY STICK IN THE MUD.
ME TOO. Scroll, scroll, scroll, while I take one moment to get cranky about it. I apparently hate other people's happiness and joy if it does not involve me.

Sometimes, when I am incredibly cranky, I get upset when people who DO NOT deserve it do happen to find it.
Okay, this is not even a "sometimes" thing. There should be a test people have to take or something before they're allowed to start watching it. I'm so protective of it.

[identity profile] veils.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently...pretty much everything turns me off new fandoms :/ HOW DO I EVEN WATCH THIS MUCH TV?

[identity profile] adinfinitum.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I think I'm a really obnoxious TV watcher. I love to be caplocky and exclamation pointy, but for the most part, it's just out of my uncontrollable excitement rather than to get people to really watch? But I'd be lying if I said I didn't try to get people to watch things! Sometimes I do get obnoxiously "OH MY GOD IF YOU DON'T WATCH THIS YOU'RE MISSING OUT IN LIFE" but it's only about select shows (I think I do that with the X-Files sometimes? I tell myself it's okay though because it's not empty flailing! It usually has some substance to back it up on my part. USUALLY.) I know people have an irrational (or rational?) hate of people who do that, but I...Don't really care about that stuff? It's like, if I'm gonna watch it, I'm gonna watch it. Which I guess gets back to most of my flails being for me and other people who watch rather than to get new people to start.

What weirdly bothers me more is something that becomes like the hot new thing. If I feel like everyone on my flist just started watching something, I like to be a rebel and refuse to watch it. WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME, I DON'T KNOW. It's kind of like, so many people love that show, it doesn't need my love on top of it! But usually when I think like that, I'm missing out. (I DID THAT WITH FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS.)

ANYHOW! Pretty much anything get me to watch a show, but it really depends on my mood. I'm open to most things (LULZ, EXCEPT NEVER SUPERNATURAL, sorry dudes) but most of the time, I don't get around to watching things because I'm either too busy or just plain lazy. Or I just get way too comfortable in my little TV niche. See: The West Wing. Which I know I'll love and have been meaning to watch for ages, but still haven't!

MEH. WHATEVA!

PS: I think my answers actually explain why people never start watching things I suggest to them or ask them to! D: D: THIS MAKES ME SAD.
Edited 2008-11-20 21:31 (UTC)

[identity profile] elapses.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think everyone realizes that.
THEY MUST NOT, OR THEY WOULD STOP ALREADY.

But the more I think about it, the more I realize how TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE the whole thing is. A lot of the time it will take a lot more than a picspam to make me want to watch something, because I skip them and I'm constantly forming weird opinions about things I don't watch in my head, but on the other hand, do you remember last winter and [livejournal.com profile] thecolorbetween and her picspams for the Palace? I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW FAST I JUMPED ON THAT BANDWAGON.

But yeah, there's nothing more off-putting than feeling like some show is being shoved down your throat.

[identity profile] silverstars.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm butting in here, but I needed to say that you are SO NOT OBNOXIOUS AT ALL. You (and also Anna) are perfect examples of how you can be super enthusiastic without being the least bit obnoxious. There is such a huge difference between genuine flailing and flailing to try to make other people watch.

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