Lol Yoona, yeah. ILHER, but she's like... actually worse at singing than say... Sooyoung. I think it's weird that people always complain about how they put girls like her and Goo Hara and Sohee in bands because like... talented or not, no one would care half as much about their respective bands if they weren't in them. SAD BUT TRUE. But you're totally right, it works out and most of them get their due. Esp in SME bands, because they're generally so big.
I agree! I think SME has a slight bias for Krystal and Victoria (just guessing because they were the ones who popped up in MVs and such before they debuted) but in practice it hasn't really shown up that much. They've all gotten a lot of variety work, the singers get OST songs, they all have a lot of fans... idk, they've all pretty much gotten their due.
The kpop industry makes it easy to like their artists, regardless of how talentless they are THEY DO!! And I think it's really interesting bc I think they sort of pick them for that (like the Heechul thing) but I also think SME/JYP especially are really good at like... training their artists to be really likable on variety. I mean it seems so effortless so you don't think about it, but I tried to watch 2NE1's first appearance on WinWin awhile ago and they were SO AWK except for Dara, who had experience because of her time in the Philippines. Meanwhile Super Junior is like... the least talented band in the world, ratio-wise (I say that with love), but they're SO GOOD on shows that it's not hard to see why they've built up such a fanbase.
the industry depersonalizes these celebrities differently because there is much less reality to Western media- like I feel like we see how hard kpop artists work/try to be where they are and America - they just exist but they never talk about and it's not transparent of what they do. Omg I was just thinking about this but you put it into better words than I could!! I was watching the Boys encore from yesterday and just thinking to myself "yeah well Yoona and Taeyeon are still sick..." and it just occurred to me that it's so odd/different that I like, know that? And it's so universal in kpop -- most people who like SNSD know that Yoona and Taeyeon are sick right now and almost anyone who really stans any other band is generally aware when a member is sick or having trouble with their voice or even like, MOODY (wasn't Onew being weird/distant earlier this year? I remember hearing something about that...). You just aren't aware of that kind of thing as it happens with western celebrities. I mean I guess they could tweet it or something, but it's still... so different. Actors film movies and bands record and then tour, and as a fan you're just not aware of their daily lives.
UM yeah I totally forget what it was because it was awhile ago (I think they announced that Yoona and Minho and Siwon were starring but that might have been a false rumor since nothing has come out since)... it was a pretty popular jdrama (and I think manga?) that involved a girl who crossdressed. AND LOL I SOMEHOW SAT THROUGH ALL OF PARADISE RANCH, I D E K. My think with kdramas is that most/all of them involve the same relationship dynamic between the leads (basically the guy expressing his ~romantic feelings~ by being an asshole for no reason) and I hate that dynamic so I have a really hard time watching most of them. Oh My Lady was the first drama I watched so I was totally unaware of that/able to enjoy it because of Siwon's stupid face, but now that I do it's like every time I try to watch a "good" drama I end up not enjoying it because I hate the male lead so much!! Apparently that is way more important to me than bad acting because I loved Yunho's drama because his character was like... too stupid to ever be mean to anyone. I think I was excited for Paradise Ranch because of leftover feelings from that, although I still have no idea how I managed to get through the first six episodes... or any of it :|
IT'S FUNNY THOUGH, because Siwon like, is kind of a bad actor?? But all the other SME idol-actors make him look SO GOOD...
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I agree! I think SME has a slight bias for Krystal and Victoria (just guessing because they were the ones who popped up in MVs and such before they debuted) but in practice it hasn't really shown up that much. They've all gotten a lot of variety work, the singers get OST songs, they all have a lot of fans... idk, they've all pretty much gotten their due.
The kpop industry makes it easy to like their artists, regardless of how talentless they are
THEY DO!! And I think it's really interesting bc I think they sort of pick them for that (like the Heechul thing) but I also think SME/JYP especially are really good at like... training their artists to be really likable on variety. I mean it seems so effortless so you don't think about it, but I tried to watch 2NE1's first appearance on WinWin awhile ago and they were SO AWK except for Dara, who had experience because of her time in the Philippines. Meanwhile Super Junior is like... the least talented band in the world, ratio-wise (I say that with love), but they're SO GOOD on shows that it's not hard to see why they've built up such a fanbase.
the industry depersonalizes these celebrities differently because there is much less reality to Western media- like I feel like we see how hard kpop artists work/try to be where they are and America - they just exist but they never talk about and it's not transparent of what they do.
Omg I was just thinking about this but you put it into better words than I could!! I was watching the Boys encore from yesterday and just thinking to myself "yeah well Yoona and Taeyeon are still sick..." and it just occurred to me that it's so odd/different that I like, know that? And it's so universal in kpop -- most people who like SNSD know that Yoona and Taeyeon are sick right now and almost anyone who really stans any other band is generally aware when a member is sick or having trouble with their voice or even like, MOODY (wasn't Onew being weird/distant earlier this year? I remember hearing something about that...). You just aren't aware of that kind of thing as it happens with western celebrities. I mean I guess they could tweet it or something, but it's still... so different. Actors film movies and bands record and then tour, and as a fan you're just not aware of their daily lives.
UM yeah I totally forget what it was because it was awhile ago (I think they announced that Yoona and Minho and Siwon were starring but that might have been a false rumor since nothing has come out since)... it was a pretty popular jdrama (and I think manga?) that involved a girl who crossdressed. AND LOL I SOMEHOW SAT THROUGH ALL OF PARADISE RANCH, I D E K. My think with kdramas is that most/all of them involve the same relationship dynamic between the leads (basically the guy expressing his ~romantic feelings~ by being an asshole for no reason) and I hate that dynamic so I have a really hard time watching most of them. Oh My Lady was the first drama I watched so I was totally unaware of that/able to enjoy it because of Siwon's stupid face, but now that I do it's like every time I try to watch a "good" drama I end up not enjoying it because I hate the male lead so much!! Apparently that is way more important to me than bad acting because I loved Yunho's drama because his character was like... too stupid to ever be mean to anyone. I think I was excited for Paradise Ranch because of leftover feelings from that, although I still have no idea how I managed to get through the first six episodes... or any of it :|
IT'S FUNNY THOUGH, because Siwon like, is kind of a bad actor?? But all the other SME idol-actors make him look SO GOOD...